Thunderous Drums
- Uncommon
- Consumable
- Other
- Level 70
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Updated about 1 hour ago
Median price
44046
↘ −2.1% over 24h — over 7 days
- Minimum price
- 395
- For sale
- 1,465 43 listings
- Sold over 24h estimate
- 1,592
- Value sold over 24h estimate
- 705,287
- Usual minimum 3 days
- 44995
- Resale at usual minimum after 5% cut
- 324525
Unit price
Median and minimum at each snapshot
- Median
- Minimum
- 1st – 3rd quartile
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| Date | Median | Minimum | 1st – 3rd quartile |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nov 12, 05:22 | 440g 46s | 395g | 440g 46s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 12, 04:22 | 440g 46s | 395g | 440g 46s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 12, 03:22 | 449g 95s | 395g | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 12, 02:22 | 449g 95s | 395g | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 12, 01:22 | 449g 95s | 395g | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 12, 00:22 | 449g 95s | 399g 99s | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 23:22 | 449g 95s | 400g | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 22:22 | 449g 95s | 436g 6s | 440g 46s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 21:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 20:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 19:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 18:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 17:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 16:22 | 449g 95s | 440g 46s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 15:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 14:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 449g 95s |
| Nov 11, 13:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 12:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 11:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 10:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 09:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 08:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 07:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 06:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 05:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 04:22 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 02:21 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 01:21 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 11, 00:21 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 23:21 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 22:21 | 449g 95s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 21:21 | 450g 96s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 20:21 | 450g 96s | 449g 95s | 449g 95s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 19:21 | 450g 96s | 449g 95s | 449g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 18:21 | 450g 96s | 449g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 17:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 16:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 15:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 14:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 13:21 | 450g 96s | 347g 35s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 12:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 11:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 450g 96s |
| Nov 10, 10:21 | 450g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 09:21 | 729g 96s | 450g | 450g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 08:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 450g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 07:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 06:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 05:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 04:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 03:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 02:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 01:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 10, 00:21 | 729g 96s | 450g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 9, 23:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 22:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 21:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 96s |
| Nov 9, 20:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 19:21 | 729g 96s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 18:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 96s | 729g 96s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 17:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 96s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 16:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 96s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 15:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 96s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 14:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 96s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 13:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 97s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 12:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 97s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 11:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 97s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 10:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 97s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 09:21 | 729g 97s | 729g 97s | 729g 97s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 08:21 | 532g 43s | 265g 97s | 265g 99s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 07:21 | 532g 43s | 265g 97s | 265g 99s – 729g 97s |
| Nov 9, 06:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 97s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 9, 05:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 97s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 9, 04:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 97s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 9, 03:21 | 265g 98s | 199g 97s | 265g 97s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 9, 02:21 | 265g 98s | 199g 97s | 265g 97s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 9, 01:21 | 265g 98s | 199g 97s | 265g 97s – 265g 99s |
| Nov 9, 00:21 | 265g 98s | 265g 97s | 265g 97s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 8, 23:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 97s – 265g 99s |
| Nov 8, 22:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 99s – 265g 99s |
| Nov 8, 21:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 99s – 265g 99s |
| Nov 8, 20:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 97s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 19:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 18:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 17:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 16:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 15:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 14:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 13:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 12:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 98s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 8, 11:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 8, 10:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 8, 09:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 08:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 07:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 06:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 05:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 04:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 03:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 02:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 8, 01:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 8, 00:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 7, 23:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 347g 35s |
| Nov 7, 22:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 21:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 20:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 19:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 18:21 | 265g 99s | 260g | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 17:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 16:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 15:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 14:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 13:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 275g |
| Nov 7, 12:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 11:21 | 265g 99s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 266g |
| Nov 7, 10:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 7, 09:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 7, 08:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 7, 07:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 7, 06:21 | 275g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 05:21 | 275g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 04:21 | 275g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 03:21 | 275g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 02:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 01:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 7, 00:21 | 266g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 6, 23:21 | 298g | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 6, 22:21 | 347g 35s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 532g 43s |
| Nov 6, 21:21 | 446g 49s | 265g 99s | 265g 99s – 517g 44s |
| Nov 6, 20:21 | 517g 44s | 266g | 347g 35s – 600g |
| Nov 6, 19:21 | 517g 44s | 200g | 275g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 18:21 | 600g | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 17:21 | 600g | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 16:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 275g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 15:21 | 298g | 275g | 275g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 14:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 13:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 12:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 11:21 | 347g 35s | 275g | 298g – 600g |
| Nov 6, 10:21 | 298g | 275g | 275g – 347g 35s |
| Nov 6, 09:21 | 298g | 275g | 275g – 347g 35s |
| Nov 6, 08:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 07:21 | 298g | 230g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 06:21 | 509g 35s | 298g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 05:21 | 446g 49s | 275g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 04:21 | 446g 49s | 298g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 03:21 | 298g | 275g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 02:21 | 298g | 275g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 01:21 | 298g | 275g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 6, 00:21 | 298g | 298g | 298g – 509g 35s |
| Nov 5, 23:21 | 298g | 298g | 298g – 509g 35s |
Estimated sales
Quantity per day (UTC), the last one is still in progress
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| Date | Quantity | Value | Listings |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nov 12, 2026 | 336 | 142,692g | 7 |
| Nov 11, 2026 | 1,292 | 578,793g | 34 |
| Nov 10, 2026 | 2,293 | 1,038,391g | 46 |
| Nov 9, 2026 | 2,315 | 1,390,747g | 46 |
| Nov 8, 2026 | 908 | 241,511g | 37 |
| Nov 7, 2026 | 802 | 213,281g | 34 |
| Nov 6, 2026 | 1,801 | 502,641g | 33 |
| Nov 5, 2026 | 82 | 24,436g | 6 |
Quantity for sale
Total at each snapshot
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| Date | For sale |
|---|---|
| Nov 12, 05:22 | 1,465 |
| Nov 12, 04:22 | 1,469 |
| Nov 12, 03:22 | 2,017 |
| Nov 12, 02:22 | 2,216 |
| Nov 12, 01:22 | 2,711 |
| Nov 12, 00:22 | 2,809 |
| Nov 11, 23:22 | 2,942 |
| Nov 11, 22:22 | 2,828 |
| Nov 11, 21:22 | 2,571 |
| Nov 11, 20:22 | 2,875 |
| Nov 11, 19:22 | 3,005 |
| Nov 11, 18:22 | 2,826 |
| Nov 11, 17:22 | 2,983 |
| Nov 11, 16:22 | 3,032 |
| Nov 11, 15:22 | 2,370 |
| Nov 11, 14:22 | 2,427 |
| Nov 11, 13:22 | 1,859 |
| Nov 11, 12:22 | 1,383 |
| Nov 11, 11:22 | 1,410 |
| Nov 11, 10:22 | 1,387 |
| Nov 11, 09:22 | 1,897 |
| Nov 11, 08:22 | 1,961 |
| Nov 11, 07:22 | 1,997 |
| Nov 11, 06:22 | 2,064 |
| Nov 11, 05:22 | 2,068 |
| Nov 11, 04:22 | 1,871 |
| Nov 11, 02:21 | 1,800 |
| Nov 11, 01:21 | 1,816 |
| Nov 11, 00:21 | 1,784 |
| Nov 10, 23:21 | 2,229 |
| Nov 10, 22:21 | 2,295 |
| Nov 10, 21:21 | 1,830 |
| Nov 10, 20:21 | 1,613 |
| Nov 10, 19:21 | 1,574 |
| Nov 10, 18:21 | 1,488 |
| Nov 10, 17:21 | 1,474 |
| Nov 10, 16:21 | 1,520 |
| Nov 10, 15:21 | 1,504 |
| Nov 10, 14:21 | 1,277 |
| Nov 10, 13:21 | 1,273 |
| Nov 10, 12:21 | 1,717 |
| Nov 10, 11:21 | 1,450 |
| Nov 10, 10:21 | 1,456 |
| Nov 10, 09:21 | 1,031 |
| Nov 10, 08:21 | 1,129 |
| Nov 10, 07:21 | 905 |
| Nov 10, 06:21 | 1,235 |
| Nov 10, 05:21 | 1,240 |
| Nov 10, 04:21 | 1,323 |
| Nov 10, 03:21 | 1,395 |
| Nov 10, 02:21 | 1,465 |
| Nov 10, 01:21 | 1,462 |
| Nov 10, 00:21 | 1,595 |
| Nov 9, 23:21 | 1,941 |
| Nov 9, 22:21 | 1,792 |
| Nov 9, 21:21 | 2,132 |
| Nov 9, 20:21 | 2,821 |
| Nov 9, 19:21 | 2,639 |
| Nov 9, 18:21 | 2,361 |
| Nov 9, 17:21 | 1,583 |
| Nov 9, 16:21 | 1,605 |
| Nov 9, 15:21 | 1,425 |
| Nov 9, 14:21 | 1,521 |
| Nov 9, 13:21 | 1,478 |
| Nov 9, 12:21 | 1,487 |
| Nov 9, 11:21 | 772 |
| Nov 9, 10:21 | 773 |
| Nov 9, 09:21 | 773 |
| Nov 9, 08:21 | 911 |
| Nov 9, 07:21 | 941 |
| Nov 9, 06:21 | 671 |
| Nov 9, 05:21 | 671 |
| Nov 9, 04:21 | 691 |
| Nov 9, 03:21 | 885 |
| Nov 9, 02:21 | 855 |
| Nov 9, 01:21 | 863 |
| Nov 9, 00:21 | 804 |
| Nov 8, 23:21 | 1,365 |
| Nov 8, 22:21 | 1,146 |
| Nov 8, 21:21 | 1,153 |
| Nov 8, 20:21 | 1,820 |
| Nov 8, 19:21 | 1,821 |
| Nov 8, 18:21 | 1,933 |
| Nov 8, 17:21 | 1,987 |
| Nov 8, 16:21 | 1,808 |
| Nov 8, 15:21 | 1,821 |
| Nov 8, 14:21 | 1,875 |
| Nov 8, 13:21 | 1,926 |
| Nov 8, 12:21 | 1,943 |
| Nov 8, 11:21 | 1,355 |
| Nov 8, 10:21 | 1,225 |
| Nov 8, 09:21 | 1,007 |
| Nov 8, 08:21 | 961 |
| Nov 8, 07:21 | 1,004 |
| Nov 8, 06:21 | 1,004 |
| Nov 8, 05:21 | 1,002 |
| Nov 8, 04:21 | 1,002 |
| Nov 8, 03:21 | 1,002 |
| Nov 8, 02:21 | 1,002 |
| Nov 8, 01:21 | 1,190 |
| Nov 8, 00:21 | 1,241 |
| Nov 7, 23:21 | 1,390 |
| Nov 7, 22:21 | 1,840 |
| Nov 7, 21:21 | 1,714 |
| Nov 7, 20:21 | 1,749 |
| Nov 7, 19:21 | 1,700 |
| Nov 7, 18:21 | 1,721 |
| Nov 7, 17:21 | 1,710 |
| Nov 7, 16:21 | 1,707 |
| Nov 7, 15:21 | 1,754 |
| Nov 7, 14:21 | 1,765 |
| Nov 7, 13:21 | 1,617 |
| Nov 7, 12:21 | 1,793 |
| Nov 7, 11:21 | 1,721 |
| Nov 7, 10:21 | 1,081 |
| Nov 7, 09:21 | 1,120 |
| Nov 7, 08:21 | 1,211 |
| Nov 7, 07:21 | 1,173 |
| Nov 7, 06:21 | 1,506 |
| Nov 7, 05:21 | 1,509 |
| Nov 7, 04:21 | 1,507 |
| Nov 7, 03:21 | 1,507 |
| Nov 7, 02:21 | 1,606 |
| Nov 7, 01:21 | 1,649 |
| Nov 7, 00:21 | 1,717 |
| Nov 6, 23:21 | 1,786 |
| Nov 6, 22:21 | 2,134 |
| Nov 6, 21:21 | 2,224 |
| Nov 6, 20:21 | 1,372 |
| Nov 6, 19:21 | 1,412 |
| Nov 6, 18:21 | 736 |
| Nov 6, 17:21 | 748 |
| Nov 6, 16:21 | 926 |
| Nov 6, 15:21 | 1,157 |
| Nov 6, 14:21 | 973 |
| Nov 6, 13:21 | 997 |
| Nov 6, 12:21 | 957 |
| Nov 6, 11:21 | 706 |
| Nov 6, 10:21 | 792 |
| Nov 6, 09:21 | 834 |
| Nov 6, 08:21 | 1,280 |
| Nov 6, 07:21 | 1,452 |
| Nov 6, 06:21 | 1,517 |
| Nov 6, 05:21 | 1,566 |
| Nov 6, 04:21 | 1,565 |
| Nov 6, 03:21 | 1,773 |
| Nov 6, 02:21 | 1,983 |
| Nov 6, 01:21 | 2,071 |
| Nov 6, 00:21 | 2,600 |
| Nov 5, 23:21 | 2,633 |
Sales are an estimate, based on listings that disappear from one snapshot to the next: a cancelled listing counts as sold, and a listing sold just before it expires goes unnoticed.
When it sells
Sells most around 00:00, Paris time: list it a little before to be among the cheapest when buyers come.
By hour of the day
Units sold per day in each hour, Paris time, over the last 6 days
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| Hour | Sold per day | Average price |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | 201.8 | 341g 66s 98c |
| 01:00 | 25 | 298g 42s 47c |
| 02:00 | 42.6 | 361g 5s 70c |
| 03:00 | 54.7 | 232g 43s 91c |
| 04:00 | 0.5 | 450g 96s |
| 05:00 | 1 | 359g 97s 67c |
| 06:00 | 31.5 | 449g 95s |
| 07:00 | 32.8 | 380g 31c |
| 08:00 | 76.2 | 375g 9s 74c |
| 09:00 | 7.8 | 409g 58s 73c |
| 10:00 | 29 | 281g 82s 69c |
| 11:00 | 46.9 | 370g 46s 20c |
| 12:00 | 115.4 | 405g 44s 22c |
| 13:00 | 50.7 | 339g 80s 30c |
| 14:00 | 95.2 | 450g 45s 11c |
| 15:00 | 50.2 | 394g 87s 38c |
| 16:00 | 60.3 | 469g 40s 95c |
| 17:00 | 48.6 | 365g 47s 36c |
| 18:00 | 59.2 | 387g 58s 12c |
| 19:00 | 63.2 | 388g 42s 44c |
| 20:00 | 168.6 | 632g 55s 47c |
| 21:00 | 132.6 | 555g 5s 65c |
| 22:00 | 79.5 | 442g 12s 85c |
| 23:00 | 99.4 | 366g 80s 42c |
By day of the week
Comparing days takes a week of history: 6 days so far.